Woohoo!

This could mean that Nokia Software update has some new firmware on the way and I'll finally be able to flash my phone thereby getting rid of the criminally cripple Vodafone crap - I bought this phone in part for voip and voip I shall have. I am still furious at the arrogance of the Voda bastards though - they won't be getting another contract from me, and I'll be encouraging others to the the same.

Kent

Mate read this:

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/5168_O...

"I am still furious at the arrogance of the Voda bastards though - they won’t be getting another contract from me, and I’ll be encouraging others to the the same."

If you've bought a VOIP phone in Britain and the network operator crippled the VOIP, the UK Trading Standards people want you to complain through this government website:

http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk/

If a phone is advertised as VOIP-compatible but the retailer (in this case the network operator) removes the VOIP, that's quite probably in breach of trading standards laws because you're not getting what was advertised.

Cheers folks,

I've just rung Vodafone for the second time to ensure that a formal complaint has been registered.

I'll also do the consumer direct thing as well as lodge a formal complaint with OfCom (which should be easy coz I work there).

Kent

Good luck Kent.

I can't believe how phone networks get away with this, not just the crippling but the locking as well.

Imagine if your ISP said you could only use a computer locked to their network, you'd dump them and get a different provider. The government and/or EU would also probably be very interested in the anti-competition issues involved.

Hopefully the EU (which has just cracked down on roaming charges) will get round to banning phone locking and crippling at some point.

But what if your ISP sold you that 500 pound computer for 80 pounds...

"But what if your ISP sold you that 500 pound computer for 80 pounds…"

And what if that same ISP locked you into an 18 month contract at £50 pcm in order to allow them to discount said computer.

Don't get this all wrong, these phone companies don't really discount the phones at all. They just give you a short term loan in exchange for your business. Ultimately, I still pay for the phone one way or another - it doesn't matter that it says 'Whizzbank talk 57 - contract payment' on the bill, it is still just a loan payment on the phone.

I used the crippling as a nice bargaining tool. Took out a new contract with Vodafone via Phones4u, went back on the 14th day and said I wanted to cancel. Got £100 - and that's on top of the phone being free. £30pcm with 500mins and 1000txts and a free phone now.. all that's needed next is a firmware flash to pop the VOIP functionality back :)

When this coming, and what is changelog?

Nick, I just popped over and saw the guy at http://www.kingmobilephone.co.uk/ to flash mine - he's just got the stuff in to do it a few hours ago. He charged me £15 for the service. He also unlocked it which was another £15 (I gave him my IMEI a while back), but he knocked off a fiver for getting them both done at once.

The only other place I found that could do it wanted to charge me £35 and hold onto my phone for 24 hours... they can stick that.

Do be mindful that the King Mobile guy told me he didn't yet have the piece of kit he needed to recover from a bad flash (he's done 2 now - mine and another guys) and won't have it for another couple of weeks. If the flash fails for some reason, you'll have a bricked phone for a couple of weeks while you wait for the kit to come through.

Now I have VOIP and it is working like a charm! I use voiptalk and followed the instructions here http://www.voiptalk.org/products/nokia-e61-voip...

Enjoy :D

Kent

You say that you got your N95 unlocked. I wasn't aware that anyone (other than the networks at the moment) could unlock a BB5 phone ?

Certainly if these guys can do it (and interestingly their website still says they can't unlock BB5 phones at the moment) then it is progress :)

BTW - have you tried Truphone ? I've been using it for months now (previously on my N80) and the free calls are very attractive !!

Cheers

Joe!

Joe,

I'll have a look at Truphone.

As for unlocking, I am not sure how he did it - may have been through a friend in the right job. As I said above, I gave him my IMEI as soon as I got it (although he wasn't sure if he'd be able to get the code at the time).

If you want to do it, give him a call - he'd probably do it over the phone as well with a paypal payment or something.

Cheers,

Kent.

Joe,

Whilst I am at it, I just had a quick look into Truphone, and I still prefer Voiptalk.org - the prices are pretty much the same and my reasons for preferring them are as follows:

1) They have a feature called SMS callback. When you are out of Wifi range, you can text the number you want to call to them. They then call your mobile, call the other party and connect the other party and join the two calls. You pay for 2 phone calls simultaneously (to your mobile and to the 3rd party number). For international calls whilst on the hop I've not seen a better solution.

2) They have a feature called 3-call. For quite a while now, I've never had a phone plugged into the BT line. I have an incoming number through them (0207, £2 a month) that I've given out as our home number. 3 call rings up to 3 SIP id's simultaneously for one incoming number. The upshot of all this is, the 2 home phones (one is a PSTN line plugged into the back of my ISP supplied router which happens to do SIP, the other is a Snom ethernet phone I bought before I had the new router) stay plugged in all the time and whenever anybody rings the 0207 number, the SIP ID of the router and the SIP ID of the Ethernet phone are both called - I've had this set up for a while and even the most technically obtuse don't have any problems with it.
With the addition of my N95, I have a 3rd ID on 3 call that will also ring. This means, when someone calls my 'home' number (assuming I am in Wifi range anywhere in the world) both the home phones and my mobile phone ring. Further, with the caller ID set up, people see me as ringing from my home phone no matter where I am in the world - handy if you want to sneak off to somewhere exotic for a few weeks without telling work :)

That got a bit wordier than planned - any questions, drop in a comment.

Cheers,

Kent.

Hi I just found out this morning that I cannot use VOIP with my shiny new n95.

Quite annoyed as well because this was the main reason I got it, after spending months emailing Nokia to put SIP on my N91 - BOOOOOOO Nokia ;]

Anyway I searched on the net and found this interesting thread at whatmobile

http://www.whatmobile.net/forumvb/showthread.ph...

I actually read through the thread and it seems the thread starter and a couple of other people are all for SIP being on the n95, but at the same time, Vodafone and Orange have come out in force to shut the guy down.

So lets bolster that thread and show we are annoyed with our networks for taking SIP away from us.

As krisse said it just not on !!

I can't fault http://www.kingmobilephone.co.uk/ at all, been there in the past to get a 6230i debranded and I think I'll be using him again for my n95!!!

Top man, although I went first time without booking and thought I was in the wrong place when I first arrived....anyone else who has been there will know what I mean ;-)

Can't wait to get the full functionality out of my n95, damn you yodafone!!!

any idea where i can download this latest firmware ??

I wish.

Version 11.0.026 has also now been seen. It is dated April 17th. In time the final release will be complete and made available to us.

where is this guy located? kingmobile?
reply directly to this email address
gabanna@hotmail.co.uk

I'm checking back here most days for the N95 firmware update!
;)

hope its soon, any found any problems on n95,

I've found a few problems. Documented around the place is the occasional having people unable to hear you. Switch to speakerphone and back sorts that out though.

I also get a bit of weird randomness with SIP. The phone hung after I'd recieved an SMS whilst on a SIP call.

There are also the occasional reboot and 1 hang whilst nothing in particular seems to be going on. I am overstating the problems - I've been pushing it as much as I can.... still, Nokia obviously have skipped a bit of QA on this bad boy hoping to make it up with firmware releases I guess.

Hi,


Does anyone know what happened to IM client (the IMPS compliant one) that was included in N80? I can't find it under any menue on my N95


Matt

http://gadgeek.blogspot.com/

Also one more thing... Firmware update...my phone under the Device menu does not have the option to check for firmware update (I have 10.0.018 firmware on mine)

N95 firmware has been released v11.0.026 can be downloaded via the NSU. Please note that although the N95 isn't listed as a supported device, the firmware is available.

Note - Some operator variants will not have updates available just yet.