Comments on: Mobbler Demo on Nokia N85 – Stream Music Based on Tags or Keywords

By: Brock

Brock — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:41:37 +0000

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By: Steve Punter

Steve Punter — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:52:54 +0000

@IncidentFlux, I didn’t realize that Nokia Internet Radio was open source. I’ve downloaded a copy of it and after Christmas is over I’ll see how easy it is to add the thread-based audio engine to this program. Hopefully it won’t be all that difficult and I can get it to work flawlessly while you do other things on your phone (like I did with Mobbler).

By: IncidentFlux

IncidentFlux — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:35:05 +0000

@Steve Punter,

Well I’m still very grateful for your good work. The more back end tweaks you make the better for us!

Maybe you’d like to make some backend enhancements to Nokia’s Open Source Internet Radio app?

Nokia S60 Internet Radio
http://opensource.nokia.com/projects/s60internetradio/ClientPage.html

http://opensource.nokia.com/projects/s60internetradio/index.html

http://wiki.opensource.nokia.com/projects/Internet_Radio_for_S60

By: Steve Punter

Steve Punter — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:05:36 +0000

@IncidentFlux, I guess the best reason NOT to have seperate pre-buffer and post-under-run buffer sizes is that it serves little purpose. Prebuffer in this case is probably a misnomer, in that is should have been called “buffer ahead”.

The Last.fm server transmits the first few seconds of a song at full speed, but then cuts back to sending data at an average rate of 128 kilobits (the same rate the stream is consumed). Rebuffering therefore tends to take longer than the initial buffering and we don’t want to wait an eternity for the song to restart. Once the stream starts playing again we’ll still only have as much buffer ahead as we started with anyway.

By: IncidentFlux

IncidentFlux — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:46:47 +0000

For example in Winamp, MPEG Audio Decoder plugin, Streaming options. There’s an option “How much to prebuffer after a buffer overrun”. You’ve already added a user changble ‘Streaming Prebuffer’ option. However if that initial value is still not maybe the user wants to set qnother fallback value to double that buffer, after a buffer underrun occurs.

Screenshot:
http://i42.tinypic.com/73jvqw.png

By: Steve Punter

Steve Punter — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:23:38 +0000

What’s a “user changeable buffer under-run option”?

By: IncidentFlux

IncidentFlux — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:09:09 +0000

Sorry for the double post, net’s pretty bad in the UAE after the recent cable cuts. That buffer leangth feature is really helping now more than ever. Perhapes a user changeble buffer under-run option would also help.

I was listening over WiFi, maybe it’s some other app causing the alerts. Even though I wasn’t running anything else.

Also posted your mod info over at SymbianFreak Forums…

By: Steve Punter

Steve Punter — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:55:06 +0000

All of those issues are TCP/IP-related and I made NO MODIFICATIONS to that part of the code. Also, I’ve NEVER seen errors like that when using the program extensively on both WiFi and 3G.

I have no idea what PLUG-IN your error refers to, because Mobbler doesn’t use plug-ins of any sort.

As for the scrolling, yes I didn’t include that. I’ve been giving some thought to a new type of marquee to handle long names.

By: IncidentFlux

IncidentFlux — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:51:54 +0000

Secondly, long albums names get cut off and don’t scroll on my E71.

By: IncidentFlux

IncidentFlux — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:49:49 +0000

MOD 5 possible bug…

Station keeps playing but I start geting alerts every few seconds…

FAILED plugin bug: Not all request variables are set – no POST parameters

By: IncidentFlux

IncidentFlux — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:58:16 +0000

Thank you so much Steve Punter. Mod adds much needed updates.

Also noted, long Albums names don’t scroll and just cut off.

Thanks again.

By: Micky

Micky — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:36:02 +0000

Cheers for MOD 5, will give it ago later today, and report back!

By: Steve Punter

Steve Punter — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:56:21 +0000

@Mark Guim, Glad to hear it works well for you. But also don’t forget to thank Michael Coffey for not only writing the bulk of the code for this application, but also for making it open source so that people like me could add terrific new features to it.

P.S. I’ve submitted the source code to this most recent modification so that it can be incorporated into future official releases of Mobbler.

By: Mark Guim

Mark Guim — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:47:55 +0000

@Steve Punter, Just tried it. Works great! No more interruptions while browsing web.

By: Steve Punter

Steve Punter — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:12:00 +0000

I just wanted to let everyone know I’ve released MOD 5 of my version of Mobbler. The big change in this one is that I’d moved the sound rendering engine to its own real-time priority thread. The upshot of this change is that the music now plays UNINTERRUPTED by anything you do on the phone.

Until now, the sound on Mobbler would pause whenever the processor was busy, like loading an application, doing graphics-intensive jobs, etc. Essentially, Mobbler only worked well if you didn’t do anything else on your phone.

MOD 5 puts an end to that. The music is now as solid as the built-in MP3 player. You can surf the web, use Google Maps, etc without affecting the sound in any way. This really solidifies Mobbler as the music player to have on S60 phones.

Here’s the link to the file.

By: John Forde

John Forde — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:25:27 +0000

I meant to state that I’m using Steve Punter’s Mod4 version of Mobbler (MCoffey’s original also worked flawlessly but the SP’s mod has a few more setting options)

By: John Forde

John Forde — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:21:56 +0000

Working flawlessly on E51 (RM-244, 200.34.36).. a very big thanks!! If only there was a way to get it to launch when I start to listen to the default music player but I’m just being too demanding!

By: ppp2992

ppp2992 — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 13:16:01 +0000

tried on nokia N85. Flawlessly! Great app!
PS: games run great on N85.

By: Steve Punter

Steve Punter — Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:11:41 +0000

Sorry, but I can’t seem to make the link work and there appears to be no way to edit it. You can hand-enter the link in your browser.

By: Steve Punter

Steve Punter — Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:10:58 +0000

In that last message, the “(Mod 4).zip” should have been part of the link, but the message parser didn’t include it. If you click on the link as shown, it won’t work. Try this one instead:

http://www.arcx.com/sites/Mobbler%20(Mod%204).zip

By: Steve Punter

Steve Punter — Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:09:36 +0000

Mobbler is open source, and so I created a modified version of it that addresses a number of issues I’ve had with it. This isn’t to say I’m displeased with the excellent work done by Michael Coffey on what is perhaps one the best S60 applets out there. I’m guessing that Michael doesn’t work on Mobbler full-time, and I’m equally sure his priorities are different from mine.

The key changes I made to Mobbler are:

- User-definable buffer size to help with poor connections.
- Automatic increase in the buffer size by 2 seconds whenever a song must be paused for re-buffering.
- Support for the graphic equalizer available on many S60 models, including the N95.
- Database of user-created volume corrections for overly loud or overly soft tracks.
- Big reduction in processor usage during the playing of songs (Michael was repainting too much of the screen to update the progress bar). This results in much smoother and stable audio playback.
- User-defined scrobble point. This was previous fixed at 50%.
- I re-arranged the screen slightly to allow for separate lines show song title, artist, and album (the latter is missing from the most recent iteration of Mobbler).
- Album release date is displayed (if available).

For non-English-speaking users however, my version only supports English for the new settings elements and menu items.

If you’re interesting in trying it out, you can download a copy from:

http://www.arcx.com/sites/Mobbler (Mod 4).zip

By: IncidentFlux

IncidentFlux — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:12:42 +0000

This is an app that other developers should learn from, so well designed. works great on my new Nokia E71, both phone and app rock!

By: pink phones

pink phones — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:58:43 +0000

mobbler seems to be a good application, but what kind of phone is perfect for that kind of application? I love adding options and styles to my phones and those stuffs makes my phones more prettier and cool, well I just want to share that to all of you. try it out its fun.

By: Knowledge

Knowledge — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:25:41 +0000

Whenever I try to use Mobbler, it skips and stutters too bad. So much, that it is un-useable. I’ve tried WiFi, and my provider’s EDGE. Both just skip too much. Is there some way to make it buffer more?

By: Micky

Micky — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 14:42:33 +0000

Been running Mobbler without any problems on an N95-1, N95-2, an N96-1, and an N81 8GB.

Mobbler rocks!

I did however, has some initial start up problems with connection, however, retried, a few times, and eventually it worked.

By: jack

jack — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 02:52:29 +0000

well ngage games don’t really make use of the 3d hardware accelerator so that phones that don’t have this hardware still can have the ngage app such as n73 and n81.
i don’t know if i’m right but that’s what i’ve read in several places

By: caliboy99

caliboy99 — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:55:17 +0000

Installed mobbler, but when try to go online using my home wifi it says the http is not compatible. Anyone have this problem or know how to correct it?

By: brian

brian — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:32:38 +0000

i heard that the n gage games are lagging of the n85 because it doesn,t have a grafic accelerator like the n95-8gb. Is that true ?