Comments on: Mobbler Demo on Nokia N85 – Stream Music Based on Tags or Keywords http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/ News, Guides, Reviews, Videos for the Nokia Fanatics Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:39:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Brock http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-2/#comment-26207 Brock Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:41:37 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-26207 Many people these days are unaware of bed bugs symptoms. It is understandable since bed bugs together with some pests have been exterminated during the widespread use of DDT in the United States after World War I. Many people these days are unaware of bed bugs symptoms. It is understandable since bed bugs together with some pests have been exterminated during the widespread use of DDT in the United States after World War I.

]]> By: Steve Punter http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-2/#comment-18448 Steve Punter Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:52:54 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-18448 @IncidentFlux, I didn't realize that Nokia Internet Radio was open source. I've downloaded a copy of it and after Christmas is over I'll see how easy it is to add the thread-based audio engine to this program. Hopefully it won't be all that difficult and I can get it to work flawlessly while you do other things on your phone (like I did with Mobbler). @IncidentFlux, I didn’t realize that Nokia Internet Radio was open source. I’ve downloaded a copy of it and after Christmas is over I’ll see how easy it is to add the thread-based audio engine to this program. Hopefully it won’t be all that difficult and I can get it to work flawlessly while you do other things on your phone (like I did with Mobbler).

]]> By: Steve Punter http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-2/#comment-42636 Steve Punter Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:52:00 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-42636 @IncidentFlux, I didn't realize that Nokia Internet Radio was open source. I've downloaded a copy of it and after Christmas is over I'll see how easy it is to add the thread-based audio engine to this program. Hopefully it won't be all that difficult and I can get it to work flawlessly while you do other things on your phone (like I did with Mobbler). @IncidentFlux, I didn’t realize that Nokia Internet Radio was open source. I’ve downloaded a copy of it and after Christmas is over I’ll see how easy it is to add the thread-based audio engine to this program. Hopefully it won’t be all that difficult and I can get it to work flawlessly while you do other things on your phone (like I did with Mobbler).

]]> By: IncidentFlux http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-2/#comment-18445 IncidentFlux Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:35:05 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-18445 @Steve Punter, Well I'm still very grateful for your good work. The more back end tweaks you make the better for us! Maybe you'd like to make some backend enhancements to Nokia's Open Source Internet Radio app? Nokia S60 Internet Radio http://opensource.nokia.com/projects/s60internetradio/ClientPage.html http://opensource.nokia.com/projects/s60internetradio/index.html http://wiki.opensource.nokia.com/projects/Internet_Radio_for_S60 @Steve Punter,

Well I’m still very grateful for your good work. The more back end tweaks you make the better for us!

Maybe you’d like to make some backend enhancements to Nokia’s Open Source Internet Radio app?

Nokia S60 Internet Radio
http://opensource.nokia.com/projects/s60internetradio/ClientPage.html

http://opensource.nokia.com/projects/s60internetradio/index.html

http://wiki.opensource.nokia.com/projects/Internet_Radio_for_S60

]]> By: IncidentFlux http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-2/#comment-42635 IncidentFlux Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:35:00 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-42635 @Steve Punter, Well I'm still very grateful for your good work. The more back end tweaks you make the better for us! Maybe you'd like to make some backend enhancements to Nokia's Open Source Internet Radio app? Nokia S60 Internet Radio http://opensource.nokia.com/projects/s60internetradio/ClientPage.html http://opensource.nokia.com/projects/s60internetradio/index.html http://wiki.opensource.nokia.com/projects/Internet_Radio_for_S60 @Steve Punter,

Well I’m still very grateful for your good work. The more back end tweaks you make the better for us!

Maybe you’d like to make some backend enhancements to Nokia’s Open Source Internet Radio app?

Nokia S60 Internet Radio
http://opensource.nokia.com/projects/s60internetradio/ClientPage.html

http://opensource.nokia.com/projects/s60internetradio/index.html

http://wiki.opensource.nokia.com/projects/Internet_Radio_for_S60

]]> By: Steve Punter http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-2/#comment-18436 Steve Punter Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:05:36 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-18436 @IncidentFlux, I guess the best reason NOT to have seperate pre-buffer and post-under-run buffer sizes is that it serves little purpose. Prebuffer in this case is probably a misnomer, in that is should have been called "buffer ahead". The Last.fm server transmits the first few seconds of a song at full speed, but then cuts back to sending data at an average rate of 128 kilobits (the same rate the stream is consumed). Rebuffering therefore tends to take longer than the initial buffering and we don't want to wait an eternity for the song to restart. Once the stream starts playing again we'll still only have as much buffer ahead as we started with anyway. @IncidentFlux, I guess the best reason NOT to have seperate pre-buffer and post-under-run buffer sizes is that it serves little purpose. Prebuffer in this case is probably a misnomer, in that is should have been called “buffer ahead”.

The Last.fm server transmits the first few seconds of a song at full speed, but then cuts back to sending data at an average rate of 128 kilobits (the same rate the stream is consumed). Rebuffering therefore tends to take longer than the initial buffering and we don’t want to wait an eternity for the song to restart. Once the stream starts playing again we’ll still only have as much buffer ahead as we started with anyway.

]]> By: Steve Punter http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-2/#comment-42634 Steve Punter Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:05:00 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-42634 @IncidentFlux, I guess the best reason NOT to have seperate pre-buffer and post-under-run buffer sizes is that it serves little purpose. Prebuffer in this case is probably a misnomer, in that is should have been called "buffer ahead". The Last.fm server transmits the first few seconds of a song at full speed, but then cuts back to sending data at an average rate of 128 kilobits (the same rate the stream is consumed). Rebuffering therefore tends to take longer than the initial buffering and we don't want to wait an eternity for the song to restart. Once the stream starts playing again we'll still only have as much buffer ahead as we started with anyway. @IncidentFlux, I guess the best reason NOT to have seperate pre-buffer and post-under-run buffer sizes is that it serves little purpose. Prebuffer in this case is probably a misnomer, in that is should have been called “buffer ahead”.

The Last.fm server transmits the first few seconds of a song at full speed, but then cuts back to sending data at an average rate of 128 kilobits (the same rate the stream is consumed). Rebuffering therefore tends to take longer than the initial buffering and we don’t want to wait an eternity for the song to restart. Once the stream starts playing again we’ll still only have as much buffer ahead as we started with anyway.

]]> By: IncidentFlux http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-1/#comment-18429 IncidentFlux Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:46:47 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-18429 For example in Winamp, MPEG Audio Decoder plugin, Streaming options. There's an option "How much to prebuffer after a buffer overrun". You've already added a user changble 'Streaming Prebuffer' option. However if that initial value is still not maybe the user wants to set qnother fallback value to double that buffer, after a buffer underrun occurs. Screenshot: http://i42.tinypic.com/73jvqw.png For example in Winamp, MPEG Audio Decoder plugin, Streaming options. There’s an option “How much to prebuffer after a buffer overrun”. You’ve already added a user changble ‘Streaming Prebuffer’ option. However if that initial value is still not maybe the user wants to set qnother fallback value to double that buffer, after a buffer underrun occurs.

Screenshot:
http://i42.tinypic.com/73jvqw.png

]]> By: IncidentFlux http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-1/#comment-42633 IncidentFlux Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:46:00 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-42633 For example in Winamp, MPEG Audio Decoder plugin, Streaming options. There's an option "How much to prebuffer after a buffer overrun". You've already added a user changble 'Streaming Prebuffer' option. However if that initial value is still not maybe the user wants to set qnother fallback value to double that buffer, after a buffer underrun occurs. Screenshot: http://i42.tinypic.com/73jvqw.png For example in Winamp, MPEG Audio Decoder plugin, Streaming options. There’s an option “How much to prebuffer after a buffer overrun”. You’ve already added a user changble ‘Streaming Prebuffer’ option. However if that initial value is still not maybe the user wants to set qnother fallback value to double that buffer, after a buffer underrun occurs.

Screenshot:
http://i42.tinypic.com/73jvqw.png

]]> By: Steve Punter http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-1/#comment-18428 Steve Punter Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:23:38 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-18428 What's a "user changeable buffer under-run option"? What’s a “user changeable buffer under-run option”?

]]> By: Steve Punter http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-1/#comment-42632 Steve Punter Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:23:00 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-42632 What's a "user changeable buffer under-run option"? What’s a “user changeable buffer under-run option”?

]]> By: IncidentFlux http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-1/#comment-18422 IncidentFlux Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:09:09 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-18422 Sorry for the double post, net's pretty bad in the UAE after the recent cable cuts. That buffer leangth feature is really helping now more than ever. Perhapes a user changeble buffer under-run option would also help. I was listening over WiFi, maybe it's some other app causing the alerts. Even though I wasn't running anything else. Also posted your mod info over at <a href="http://www.symbian-freak.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18514&start=45" rel="nofollow">SymbianFreak Forums</a>... Sorry for the double post, net’s pretty bad in the UAE after the recent cable cuts. That buffer leangth feature is really helping now more than ever. Perhapes a user changeble buffer under-run option would also help.

I was listening over WiFi, maybe it’s some other app causing the alerts. Even though I wasn’t running anything else.

Also posted your mod info over at SymbianFreak Forums…

]]> By: IncidentFlux http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-1/#comment-42630 IncidentFlux Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:09:00 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-42630 Sorry for the double post, net's pretty bad in the UAE after the recent cable cuts. That buffer leangth feature is really helping now more than ever. Perhapes a user changeble buffer under-run option would also help. I was listening over WiFi, maybe it's some other app causing the alerts. Even though I wasn't running anything else. Also posted your mod info over at <a href="http://www.symbian-freak.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18514&start=45" rel="nofollow">SymbianFreak Forums</a>... Sorry for the double post, net’s pretty bad in the UAE after the recent cable cuts. That buffer leangth feature is really helping now more than ever. Perhapes a user changeble buffer under-run option would also help.

I was listening over WiFi, maybe it’s some other app causing the alerts. Even though I wasn’t running anything else.

Also posted your mod info over at SymbianFreak Forums…

]]> By: IncidentFlux http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-1/#comment-42631 IncidentFlux Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:09:00 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-42631 Sorry for the double post, net's pretty bad in the UAE after the recent cable cuts. That buffer leangth feature is really helping now more than ever. Perhapes a user changeble buffer under-run option would also help. I was listening over WiFi, maybe it's some other app causing the alerts. Even though I wasn't running anything else. Also posted your mod info over at <a href="http://www.symbian-freak.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18514&start=45" rel="nofollow">SymbianFreak Forums</a>... Sorry for the double post, net’s pretty bad in the UAE after the recent cable cuts. That buffer leangth feature is really helping now more than ever. Perhapes a user changeble buffer under-run option would also help.

I was listening over WiFi, maybe it’s some other app causing the alerts. Even though I wasn’t running anything else.

Also posted your mod info over at SymbianFreak Forums…

]]> By: Steve Punter http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-1/#comment-18421 Steve Punter Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:55:06 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-18421 All of those issues are TCP/IP-related and I made NO MODIFICATIONS to that part of the code. Also, I've NEVER seen errors like that when using the program extensively on both WiFi and 3G. I have no idea what PLUG-IN your error refers to, because Mobbler doesn't use plug-ins of any sort. As for the scrolling, yes I didn't include that. I've been giving some thought to a new type of marquee to handle long names. All of those issues are TCP/IP-related and I made NO MODIFICATIONS to that part of the code. Also, I’ve NEVER seen errors like that when using the program extensively on both WiFi and 3G.

I have no idea what PLUG-IN your error refers to, because Mobbler doesn’t use plug-ins of any sort.

As for the scrolling, yes I didn’t include that. I’ve been giving some thought to a new type of marquee to handle long names.

]]> By: Steve Punter http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-1/#comment-42629 Steve Punter Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:55:00 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-42629 All of those issues are TCP/IP-related and I made NO MODIFICATIONS to that part of the code. Also, I've NEVER seen errors like that when using the program extensively on both WiFi and 3G. I have no idea what PLUG-IN your error refers to, because Mobbler doesn't use plug-ins of any sort. As for the scrolling, yes I didn't include that. I've been giving some thought to a new type of marquee to handle long names. All of those issues are TCP/IP-related and I made NO MODIFICATIONS to that part of the code. Also, I’ve NEVER seen errors like that when using the program extensively on both WiFi and 3G.

I have no idea what PLUG-IN your error refers to, because Mobbler doesn’t use plug-ins of any sort.

As for the scrolling, yes I didn’t include that. I’ve been giving some thought to a new type of marquee to handle long names.

]]> By: IncidentFlux http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-1/#comment-18420 IncidentFlux Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:51:54 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-18420 Secondly, long albums names get cut off and don't scroll on my E71. Secondly, long albums names get cut off and don’t scroll on my E71.

]]> By: IncidentFlux http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-1/#comment-42628 IncidentFlux Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:51:00 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-42628 Secondly, long albums names get cut off and don't scroll on my E71. Secondly, long albums names get cut off and don’t scroll on my E71.

]]> By: IncidentFlux http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-1/#comment-18419 IncidentFlux Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:49:49 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-18419 MOD 5 possible bug... Station keeps playing but I start geting alerts every few seconds... FAILED plugin bug: Not all request variables are set - no POST parameters MOD 5 possible bug…

Station keeps playing but I start geting alerts every few seconds…

FAILED plugin bug: Not all request variables are set – no POST parameters

]]> By: IncidentFlux http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-1/#comment-42626 IncidentFlux Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:49:00 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-42626 MOD 5 possible bug... Station keeps playing but I start geting alerts every few seconds... FAILED plugin bug: Not all request variables are set - no POST parameters MOD 5 possible bug…

Station keeps playing but I start geting alerts every few seconds…

FAILED plugin bug: Not all request variables are set – no POST parameters

]]> By: IncidentFlux http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-1/#comment-42627 IncidentFlux Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:49:00 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-42627 MOD 5 possible bug... Station keeps playing but I start geting alerts every few seconds... FAILED plugin bug: Not all request variables are set - no POST parameters MOD 5 possible bug…

Station keeps playing but I start geting alerts every few seconds…

FAILED plugin bug: Not all request variables are set – no POST parameters

]]> By: IncidentFlux http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-1/#comment-18418 IncidentFlux Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:58:16 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-18418 Thank you so much Steve Punter. Mod adds much needed updates. Also noted, long Albums names don't scroll and just cut off. Thanks again. Thank you so much Steve Punter. Mod adds much needed updates.

Also noted, long Albums names don’t scroll and just cut off.

Thanks again.

]]> By: IncidentFlux http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-1/#comment-42625 IncidentFlux Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:58:00 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-42625 Thank you so much Steve Punter. Mod adds much needed updates. Also noted, long Albums names don't scroll and just cut off. Thanks again. Thank you so much Steve Punter. Mod adds much needed updates.

Also noted, long Albums names don’t scroll and just cut off.

Thanks again.

]]> By: Micky http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-1/#comment-18406 Micky Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:36:02 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-18406 Cheers for MOD 5, will give it ago later today, and report back! Cheers for MOD 5, will give it ago later today, and report back!

]]> By: Micky http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-1/#comment-42623 Micky Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:36:00 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-42623 Cheers for MOD 5, will give it ago later today, and report back! Cheers for MOD 5, will give it ago later today, and report back!

]]> By: Micky http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-1/#comment-42624 Micky Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:36:00 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-42624 Cheers for MOD 5, will give it ago later today, and report back! Cheers for MOD 5, will give it ago later today, and report back!

]]> By: Steve Punter http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-1/#comment-18405 Steve Punter Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:56:21 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-18405 @Mark Guim, Glad to hear it works well for you. But also don't forget to thank Michael Coffey for not only writing the bulk of the code for this application, but also for making it open source so that people like me could add terrific new features to it. P.S. I've submitted the source code to this most recent modification so that it can be incorporated into future official releases of Mobbler. @Mark Guim, Glad to hear it works well for you. But also don’t forget to thank Michael Coffey for not only writing the bulk of the code for this application, but also for making it open source so that people like me could add terrific new features to it.

P.S. I’ve submitted the source code to this most recent modification so that it can be incorporated into future official releases of Mobbler.

]]> By: Steve Punter http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-1/#comment-42622 Steve Punter Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:56:00 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-42622 @Mark Guim, Glad to hear it works well for you. But also don't forget to thank Michael Coffey for not only writing the bulk of the code for this application, but also for making it open source so that people like me could add terrific new features to it. P.S. I've submitted the source code to this most recent modification so that it can be incorporated into future official releases of Mobbler. @Mark Guim, Glad to hear it works well for you. But also don’t forget to thank Michael Coffey for not only writing the bulk of the code for this application, but also for making it open source so that people like me could add terrific new features to it.

P.S. I’ve submitted the source code to this most recent modification so that it can be incorporated into future official releases of Mobbler.

]]> By: Mark Guim http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-1/#comment-18404 Mark Guim Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:47:55 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-18404 @Steve Punter, Just tried it. Works great! No more interruptions while browsing web. @Steve Punter, Just tried it. Works great! No more interruptions while browsing web.

]]> By: Mark Guim http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/31/mobbler-demo-on-nokia-n85-stream-music-based-on-tags-or-keywords/comment-page-1/#comment-42621 Mark Guim Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:47:00 +0000 http://thenokiablog.com/?p=1247#comment-42621 @Steve Punter, Just tried it. Works great! No more interruptions while browsing web. @Steve Punter, Just tried it. Works great! No more interruptions while browsing web.

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