agreed. i would buy it and dump my n97 in the river.. but apple wont get their heads of of their asses

IF APPLE DID THAT I WOULD BE THE FIRST BUYER

haha LOL about the price.....it's not impossible that it would cost less than N97?
iPhone 3G cost around $1350 here is Croatia which is too funny (and you have to give extra money every month for the internet cause otherwise it's unusable)
this one would probably cost more than $2000 and N97 will be about $1200 I believe

BTW, I still think it could never beat N97...
and I definitely like symbian more than iPhones UI

Lol... Now apple has joined the phone category. Phones will always lose out to the iPhones/Furture apple phones.

Apple is great at everything.

They have the best in music - iPods

And beat Microsoft with there 'Macs'

Now they will beat all the phones and claim the trophy yet again...

Whats after? Leading the world? - Just Kidding... Maybe games?

I don't know if it will be the death.. iPhone's features are nice, but nokia is better!

Symbian consumes lesser resources than all of the smartphone OS's in the market. Look at the E71 it gives me 3 days of normal usage and 2 days of heavy use. Handling attachments on S60 is better than other smartphones. Symbian signing helps consumers like me know that the application is not stupidly written to harm my phone. As for the UI get over it and arrange it according to your taste.
So what's new when you tell me my phone needs to be improved to beat the neighbor's new phone? I sticking to my e71 for sometime.

I have a N95 8GB (North American version) and I am using Apple Wireless Keyboard (bluetooth) with it. My friend has an iPhone 3G and he can't use the Apple keyboard with it. Thanks Apple, I stick with my Nokia.

Btw, the N95 is 100x better phone, camera, mp3 player, sound and video recorder and mobile computing platform than any iPhone.

you guys are forget the most important new feature of the N97. BATTERY LIFE. i dont know one person who uses the iphone that does not have to carry a charger with them.

Also, lets not forget about the whole battery, sim card. my roommates iphone 'crapped out' on him and he had to drive to the apple store to get it fixed. luckily it was backed up and he was finally able to pull an old restore.

nokia pc suite will drop all my nokia settings on any of my old nokia phones and obviously i can just swap out the sim cards.

Just a few thoughts:

1) there is no space on the iPhone for a decent camera lens. Just check the Nseries lenses an imagine how they would fit on the iPhone. The type of design would mean the phone would have to get thicker and then also add the qwerty board like in the example pic: the phone would become very thick. Wouldn't be a problem, if the phone wasn't this extreme wide already! The N97 is less wide and taller for that

It means the iPhone would need an extreme design change. Especially in shape.

Now I talked only about the main camera. But we Nokia users are used to the second camera for videocalls too. This will become bigger and bigger in the coming years. (I have had videocalling on my phones since 2004)

And extra camera in the front would also require some design change: there isnt any room in the phone there for it now.

Only to get all the camera features the of a N97, Apple would need extreme design change that would make it hard to have this awesome slick look they have now.

And then I havent even started on what it would mean for battery, processor, etc. I didn't even mention the room needed for the flash!

To me it seems that the iPhone was designed at the peak of what it can do: hardware but also software! A dutch programmer told on a phone devellopers camp that the iPhone's operating system is running at it the peak of what it can do. Yet Symbian can do more and more and more than is done with it already.

Another thing to consider is that Nokia is by far the biggest seller of smartphones (and of other type of mobile phones too). The funds that they have are so huge:. They rely on "many phones for many different users with many different preferences" instead of "one phone for all".

All these things mean that Nokia has everything to keep ruling the phone business for years. Apple can make any phone they want to, but Nokia still has dozens of other phones for other users available.

Now would it hurt the N97 sales? Maybe, maybe not. But no phone would be strong enough to whipe out all the other competitors, especially not Nokia.

Xander

It would be very interesting to see how they would solve

From what I've read RIM is stepping up their game as well. A bold with a touchscreen is comming out this year and rumors of a high end camera bb are floating around. Nokia has to step their game up

I use the Ipone.

And browsing during daytime is very convenient. But for me phone browsing is on to go..at home I have a laptop with a 22inch screen.

Honestly, the rest for me is rather boring. Nice user experience, like the funny (or some handy) apps..but that's it.

I like to install, learn, compare and experience..and for that the nokia and symbian is really great.

Without dismissing other OS's or phones.

You guys talk a lot about style or design when you talk about iPhone...
Did anyone of you really used an iPhone for more than five minutes? I dont think so.

Use it. Try the phone you are talking about (the web browser, the maps app, the whole interface) and then come back and tell us.

Of course iPhone is not the best phone in the market (mail is a pain in the ass, unusefull bluetooth... Apple after all), and yes I also still prefer Nokia, but you cant say it is only a pretty phone.
Lets face it, Nokia has lots os things to learn from an iPhone.

@marco, I use the iPhone too and I can't think of any other mobile device that does web browsing better.

While I admire Apples' design and marketing savvy, I think the N-series phones are still streets ahead in aspects that Nokia have been perfecting for years. I'd like to point your attention to Steve Litchfields' excellent Smartphone Comparison Grid at http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/grid.htm
My year-old N82 still beats the Iphone 3G pants down. Even the Asian devices are whipping it. Apple has given the cellphone world a wake-up call and shown that styling, hype and form can work miracles, I believe that function will always win out in the long run. Furthermore I suspect that Apple's seflish way of wanting to monopolize the whole user experience (and their wallets) will eventually burn them. Consumers are wising up.

If the hardware was the same I would choose the N97, no questions. Personally I like a bit more freedom than Apple is willing to offer; Apple is for the average user more interested in style, not for the serious technophile (unless you happen to be American and the attraction of a homegrown phone is just too much)

With regard to the 'Downloads' catalog, I had suggested before on Symbian-guru.com that it would make a lot of sense to bring it under the fold of Ovi.

The day Apple cam out with a phone with the specs you mentioned Mark, pigs would fly and money would grow on trees! lol.

Apple is a niche player and unless it comes out with a 'smartphone' version of the OS the the above specs are useless and an eyewash.

This year is going to be the war of the OSes.

Indeed Robert, 2009 ius supposed to be the year for Nokia, with several surprises in store for us all.

I read recently about an iPhone Nano, not sure if this is a leaked rumor or not.

well if apple announced the iphone pro i can guarantee that nokia will have a new device to trump it...as were speaking about the N97 ill have to say this....Nokia will implement something else.....
@ Mark....Have you read Elders review? At the end of it Eldar has hinted that there are a few surprizes to be anounced with the arrival of the N97.....

I think the N97 is dead in the water in many ways regardless of a new iPhone. It's big, clumsy and the UI is not perfected by any means. Additionally Apple's AppStore WORKS - Nokia's 'Download' barely works, crashes and is a complete mess.

I love both Nokia and Apple products. My phone is an E71 which is fantastic for email. I use it over the iPhone as I'm not a touchscreen fan but also love the Car Menu software for my CK300 Bluetooth car kit and in use the realworld functionality is BETTER than the iPhone.

However, it won't take Apple much to improve the iPhone dramatically - a better camera and simple tweaks to the UI would help loads (Flickr integration, better detailed functions such as copy and paste and video) and if a keyboard was included that might persuade me.

Big deal...even if it Apple introduces something like that it would be something that is priced atleast 3 times than the N97. Forget the App Store, look at the amount of freeware that exists for the Symbian platform. Forget the Nokia Download Catalog...there s such excellent freeware available you don't feel the need for an APP STORE....

no. the iphone interface is nice and all, but there's more to a phone than just that. app store? yeah, sure, great. i'm able to locate, obtain, install, when i wish to purchase software remotely through my nokia. sure sure sure, nokia doesn't run the stores i shop at - who cares? is it as 'slick' as the apple app store? not even close. do i care? not even a little.

the app store is fundamentally broken. from apple's horrible backend enforcement of non-fully-disclosed rules right through to the broken frontend that fails to provide a stable and knowable release visibility timeframe.

so - a qwerty iphone with 5MP camera? that's only as good as a nokia to me if it also comes with a better 3g radio, video, copy/paste, MULTITASKING, oh and don't forget open development opportunity. i want JBTASKMAN to be a valid app for me, and ROTATEME, and FLIPSILENT. apple? best we can say is maybe apple would let one or more similar apps through and maybe not. and maybe after letting them through they'll secretly remove them later. that's a closed ugly version of a walled garden, and it's clearly not for me.

i'm no nokia fanboy, my n95 is my first nokia device ever. i'm no apple hater, i've just acquired my 3rd mac and haven't used any microsoft product regularly since 1998. i'm a computer engineer. i want the best and most fully functional devices. i want nokia devices.

-jared

@jared, I also go for the most fully functional.

That is why I've been a Nokia Nseries owner since the Nokia N80. I won't go anywhere else unless a better device comes from a different company.

I used to be a Palm (RIP) fan and its amazing how Nokia is recalling me the worst days in Palm.
Hope they (Nokia) wake up before it's too late.

all i can say is i will only buy the iPhone Pro if it can be jailbroken and unlocked. I'd rather get the games for free than have to pay for them.