I’ve been a huge NOKIA fan since the start of the mobile age. But since the iPhone 3G & the 3GS, Apple have raised the bar. I’ve started to expect much more from my smartphones, be it Email, Web-browsing, Gaming, Music, Camera, Faster processing EVERYTHING!! To be honest I havent had my hands on the N97 just yet (will be getting mine tomorrow), seeing the many videos people have posted on YouTube examining, testing and playing with it, I feel that
1. the Touchscreen doesn’t seem as responsive as the iPhone.
(different touchscreen technologies)
2. the Web-browsing seems better and faster in the iPhone.
(One of the best SAFARI web browsers coupled with extra RAM)
3. the Games & Applications, the Nokia OVI store is tiny as compared to the massive iPhone APP Store, I do believe the OVI store will get bigger especially after the N97 launch.
4. the Photos and Camera, N97 having a better 5MP CZ camera with dual LEDs should perfrom better, altough the iPhone has an easy to use, quick camera which takes good pictures.
5. the OS (operating system), Apple iPhone has a very easy to use and responsive OS with well spaced and clear icons, the onscreen keyboard is also very user friendly. The N97 has a Symbian S60 OS which again is very very easy to use especially when one has option to use either the keyboard or the touchscreen or both. But the only issue with the N97 OS is that it looks dated and feels the same. Hopefully with Nokia taking over Symbian we should see improvements(a new firmware already out!), and maybe a new OS, who knows?
6. the Hardware, the N97 looks really nice from the exterior and the slider also looks to work well. The iPhone with the simple looks & curvy feel is a smooth operator. The N97 has a good 400Mhz processor and 128MB RAM but the iPhone outshines it with a faster processor and it’s huge RAM 256MBs of it.
The Verdict: The iPhone with its cool apps, easy OS, ok camera and very impressive hardware wins this round, but the N97 with its sleek slider and good camera, file tranfer via Bluetooth capability, FM RDS(transmit FM signal that can be caught by any FM reciever like a car radio, stereo etc) has some tricks up it’s sleeve aswell and if you are a dedicated Nokia fan(like me) you know what you have to do: GET BOTH!

The debate isnt valid unless you bring in the App Store, which kicks Ovi (and therefore N97) into touch.

I have been with Nokia since 1997 (changing once to Sony Erickson and once a Vario II – both times regretting it!) and the last phone I owned was the N95 which was groundbreaking.

However, Nokia are currently going down the strangest path ever and I’m concerned that they’re going to fail. So much so that I actively decided to buy an iPhone 3GS a couple of weeks ago; and I HATE Apple.

The interface is fantastic, the apps / games are fantastic and the business apps well integrated. Pitch this against a device that has a shoddy CPU, no dedicated GPU, limited memory (not 32Mb … that’s storage) and an OS that should have been scrapped 3 years ago and there’s no contest. Especially when you see how poorly the resistive screen performs instead of the iPhone and Palm Pre’s capacitive ones. However, I totally accept that previous iPhone releases have been very underwhelming.

I’m aware that the camera and phone are nowhere near as good as Nokia and again, it pained me to make a sacrifice on what are core features of a mobile device! However, the iPhone as a complete package is so much better that I had to defect across to Apple.

I will be the first one to come running back to Nokia when they sort their act out. In the mean time, as long as they keep releasing devices that are unstable, underperforming and downright ugly I’ll be reluctantly shopping elsewhere. It’s worth noting that I had to move from Vodafone to make the switch too, and O2’s coverage and signal strength is far inferior.

[Sigh] When will Nokia sort their act out.

Copy & paste is a very useful feature of the new iPhone, I feel. But the N97 doesn't offer that, does it?

Apple is over-rated. The iPhone is a piece of technological joke, you may ask why. Well, think of this in a simpler manner, how many phones manufacturer dare to release a phone with no flash?

Besides that, the iPhone's battery is a bloody annoying thing to replace. Would you actually spend a week or two just to get your battery replaced? Or would you purchase a new N97 battery at any Nokia shop? I have no comments if you are saying Nokia phones are tend to be slow and laggy, I've held the Nokia N97 today with my hands. As I was browsing through all the applications, it was smooth and the camera is much faster compared to the current N95 that I'm using.

iPhone, I've used it before and honestly.. I'm not impressed at all. Sure, you have all that touchscreen gimmicks but really.. is that all you got? I've tried to send photos with iPhone and I'm telling you, it's probably one of the dumbest software design ever. So, yeah.. I actually read that some of you did mention that Nokia's software technicians are amateurs to Apple's software technicians.. Guess what?.. Apple didn't have the brain to implement proper connectivity software program into the iPhone.

So, please.. If you actually even thought of placing N97 below the iPhone, it just shows you don't really know these phones that much. Nokia has been a trusted brand for so many years, the hardware being used in the phones are obviously way better than Apple. IMHO, Apple will never come close to Nokia phone's reliability.

It's times like these where I had to go put things into perspective. I did so by dropping in over at AT&T. I spent all morning in there trying the new iPhone 3GS. Doing so made me glad I stuck with Nokia. Despite all the bugs we are having now- I would still choose a Nokia over an iPhone and here's why:

The iPhone still has issues with rotation which, my buggy N97- fairs better than the iPhone. The keyboard does not rotate on the iPhone as advertised. When I finally did get it into landscape mode, I could not find the commas, periods etc as they are on another menu- another screen. Who was the programmer that came up with that? Talk about no flow when typing. Their whole speech is about “flow” but here we have to go to another sub menu just to enter a period? WTF is that all about? Talk about impeding your workflow. Nokia's full qwerty keyboard burries Apple's in my opinion as it's all there laid out in front of you. No sub menus just to get a punctuation mark. Not well thought out at all.

Safari vs. Opera Mini. Here's some perspective that I found shocking. After I struggled two times to enter in a web address on Crapple's horrid iPhone virtual keyboard that refused to rotate by the way again when using Safari- I finally hit enter and got an error message. Ok, what happened? The address is correct when input but, at time of enter- their software cut the address thus resulting with an error and no web page. I got the address in on my second attempt vs. flying through it with the N97s full qwerty board with ease.

I hit enter on both devices and Opera pulled the site faster than Safari. Now, here's the kicker: The N97 is running in EDGE / GSM only- as I am on T-Mo and they don't support 3G so, anyway, the N97 burried the iPhone for pulling in the web page. I did this a few times to make sure it wasn't a cached page in one device and not the other. Now, whether there was a network issue on the AT&T iPhone or whatever- I don't know but, the bottom line is that I found the iPhone to be so much slower to get around on than Nokia's N97 and Safari is not that impressive as they make it seem in ads.

Contacts: On the iPhone, some genius put the search function as part of the scroll page so, if your at letter W and you want to start a new search, you have to scroll back to the top of the list just to get the search window. That doesn't make sense to me at all so, I began thinking logically that there must be another way to jump to that search window but, I could not find it nor could the sales person. It's not intuitive to where this function might be. Nokia has a fixed search window so that no matter where your at- it's there when you need it. Again, I like the N97 over the iPhone for contacts and faster workflow. As neat as they are in the iPhone and how the GUI has that “pop” I don't like it one bit to use. To me it's good to look at but, not to use. More bling bling than functionality. It may have a faster processor and way more ram but, in the end, it's real world use that proves that the iPhone is not as great as people make it out to be. It is way overrated.

The user can also use the N97 like a laptop whereas, due to the curved back of the iPhone, it's simply not possible without it wobbling all over the place plus, you can't see the screen as good as on Nokia's N97.

The camera is also better on the N97 and so much easier to use. All you have to do is open the lens cover, point aim and shoot. Then, right on the screen, there's an option for emailing the photo, using MMS, Bluetooth or Upload- way easier than on the iPhone. There's no menus to scroll through, no menus to click, it's right there as an icon on the camera screen to the right. Great workflow and, it takes better quality pics than the iPhone. I didn't test video but, pics were way nicer on the N97.

I also prefer the narrower width of the N97 as the iPhone is too wide in my opinion.

Lastly: what's the battery life on this new iPhone 3GS? I get three full days of use out of the N97 so, chalk up another point over Crapple's iPhone.

Summary: the only clear advantage that is really obvious with the iPhone in general is it's display and touch screen and it's GUI. It is very clean, sharp, crisp and clear. Even with the bright control dimmed it still looks better than the N97 set to full brightness. But, aside from that- it's a no brainer for me as to what device works better for me. Even knowing how many bugs are present in the N97 at current- I would still choose it hands down over the iPhone for ease of use, it's intuitive design and faster work flow.

And when it hangs, how's that doing? Not too good. Especially when the battery is not removable. My brother has one and it's a HUGE PILE. He hates it and wished he'd never got it. He gets two calls around the same time, call waiting, he goes to answer the second caller and it froze up solid on an incoming call. The reboot power down…how did that work? Not too good, in fact, it didn't work at all and, as a result, he had to let the battery die in order to recharge and reboot. Now, that's something no one has to deal with other than iPhone users. The only great thing about it is the touch screen technology that Apple ripped from someone elses design. That was around in the military touch screens that I worked on years ago that have capacitance touch screens ALONG with the two finger pinch zoom in / out. A friend of mine codes for the iPhone and, in no way does it blow away anything. THe screen gets stuck, or, it doesn't rotate at all, slow and crash happy browser. Apple had no clue about making web browsers. Hell, they don't even do Java but some ported C-object code that's a Java substitute so, what you see on the screen is not even what the web site looks like sometimes but how they code it to appear. Then people wonder why it crashes. Well, make the code standard and compliant with Java script and maybe it will work as good as Opera. Opera blows Safari into a ditch for speed. Safari is integrated with all the other apps and that's a great thing for interoperability but, that's about it. I found the screen to hang and not be able to type out a message when on the web client email site. The board got stuck. I had to gently tap it on the table to free it up. Sure, the scrolling is the best as is how it responds to touch input. That device was designed as a multimedia box with the radio X-mitter as an afterthought. Even the 3G models were so badly designed it was dropping most of the calls due to a lousy arse radio. Now, the new ones are overheating and discoloring. Decent phone? I would have to say no based on all the factual evidence of real world users who are in the majority of disappointing with the device overall.

I agree to your post and based on these factors even i got a N97 instead of iPhone

Hello everyone

I just read the review and I'm kinda surprised what I was reading. I have an n97 and I had an IPhone 3GS 32 gb which i exchanged with somebody for the n97. The Iphone is a better quality phone why? well because:
-the screen is much better, the n97 looks kinda cheap and the colours ar not very nice
-the navigation works. Nokia's nav is crappy be honest people nokia maps it's not that well.
-the touchscreen is very responsive to the commands given the n97 touchscreen is terrible because of the ammont of force you have to put on the screen.
-the widgets are nice but the widgets from the iphone are better by far.
-itunes store has more to offer than ovi
-games are great on the iphone
-email on n97 looks cheap
-browsing is terrible on the n97 and gets worse with the stupid little arrow ( same as on the e71)
-commands don't always respond to the action given
-the camera from the n97 looks terrible I expected more from a 5 mp carl zeiss lens camera.
-the whole phone (n97) looks good when you hold it in your hand until you turn it around. C'mon people it looks like a knock off very cheap compared to the housing of the iphone, bb,e71.
-the sound is terrible the Iphone beats nokia every day of the week
-headphones from nokia are bad.
On the good side for nokia

-Battery life is super. I had to charge my Iphone twice a day
-The keyboard is great far better than the iphone because when your typing it doesn't eat letters or change words.
-the thing I like about nokia is that they are easy to use.
-It doesn't blow up or get overheated. I bought my Iphone at t-mobile but within a week returned it because it got so hot that I couldn't even hold it in my hands. I got a new one btw
-Not so expensive as the Iphone but not worth the price.
- The storage is great extra trunk space for your junk lol, sorry apple better luck next year
-You get more out of the box than with the iphone.

this phone doesn't live up to the hype. I couldn't wait to get my hands on it and now I have one but think to myself this was the dumbest trade of my life.

this message was posted on the website for e71 fanatics.

I understand you're mostly just trolling, but you should really look into some of these, they're wrong. Adding a period while typing on the iphone you just hit the spacebar twice, also holding down letters gives alternatives, so to get a tilde over an n just hold down on the N for a second. To scroll to the top of a page/contacts you just tap the top of the window… as for internet speed I can tell you my 3GS is worlds faster than my 5800xm was at browsing the web, including opera mini, in fact, it's not even close.

I'll give you the points about the camera on the n97, though sending videos to youtube or mobile me on the iphone is very easy. I'll will say though, you're post strikes me as someone who has only used an iphone for small amounts of time. I really like nokias, s60 holds a place in my heart, but unless nokia drastically overdrives their mobile OS, and forces 3rd parties to match higher specifications, it's going to be a very tough sell against apple, especially once apple launches increasingly cheaper phones/plans.

To quit safari, just hit the home key and it brings you back to normal app slection home, and caches the safari app along with any open windows you have (you can have multiple). That's what I don't understand about the multitasking arguement, it takes less time for my 3gs to launch an app from cache than the 5800 takes to switch to an already open one. I can maybe understand if you use greater than 4 apps at once, but i don't find that very productive for me, generally just use things like fring + safari or some other combination. I'd like apple to add true multitasking to the 3gs and it will likely come in the 4.0 update if only as an option to keep the bullet point feature comparisons level.

Basically you can't see a list of apps running concurrently since the only certain apps will and generally Apple is using some trickery with storing cache data to make it appear you're resuming an app. Safari is a good example. If you want to use a more Nokia like task manager, just install backgrounder which allows you to run multiple programs concurrently in the traditional sense.

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Nokia N97 is the best compare to shit I phone. I Phone does not have caller name say, games, you can't copy music, not memory card, you cant delet music without joinin it with computer… I phone is completely shit phone…

So 3gs vs n97. I have to stress that the resistive on n97 is like 3 generations behind 3gs' capacitive.

Games/apps on Apple's appstore are glorious as opposed to Nokia's miserable Ovi, N-gage & JME stuff. Quality & quantity achieved.

Taking photos on the N97 seems like a hassle. 3gs' for simpletons. After a week playing around with the Nokia settings you just want one setting that does it all quickly.

3gs' social apps way more stable and full-featured than Nokia's.

N97 no tabbed browsing, no cut paste on browser text!!! ( opera mini beta 5 does not count yet. not that stable ).

I bought the N97 against bad reviews everywhere. Thank god for keyboard, flexible bluetooth, fm transmitter, widgets, led flash, long battery life..

The camera on the N97 is stupidly simple to use.

Process:

Step 1: Slide open the camera lens cover.
Step 2: Point, Aim and Shoot
END

Options:

On that same screen, the user has 4 options to choose from and they are as follows:

1. Send by message
2. Send by email
3. Send by bluetooth
4. Send by upload

I compared the amount of clicks and time required to use both the iPhone and N97s cameras and found the Nokia device supporting faster workflow with fewer clicks. No need to wade through any software menus.

There's also a std camera capture button as found on std cameras as a hardware feature. No manual required as it's extremely intuitive to figure out.

Just my thoughts after comparing both devices.